If you decide to shift to tickle torture and you need a consultant or subcontractor, you know where I live. Well, online anyway. ;-) Personally, I prefer to go right there and leave all that nasty pain stuff to someone else. But that's why there's chocolate and butter pecan. (I figure no one's vanilla here.) And @cbr998: YOU know where I live, too. Same name at AOL if you want to contact me. ;-)